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Join the Autistic Licence podcast, where two autistic therapists - Siana & Leo - share their experiences, insights and the colourful world of intersectionality! We’re here to boost visibility for fellow autistic therapists, fuel the global neurodiversity conversation, and create a fun, engaging space together. No matter who you are, we warmly invite you to join us on this journey of discovery, connection, and growth. Subscribe and be part of the conversation today!
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Sunday Feb 04, 2024
S1 E12: Spoonies!
Sunday Feb 04, 2024
Sunday Feb 04, 2024
In this episode we explore the finite nature of personal energy and capacity. We refer to our own experiences and to wider "spoon theory".
The pace of this conversation is slow and relaxed; it's basically two autistic people hanging out together. If that's your vibe, we'd love you to join us 🧡💛
On that note, our Facebook community is growing fast and you would be very welcome there too - see the links below...
LINKS
Facebook
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Sunday Jan 21, 2024
S1 E11: An indirect exploration of Jungian Sandplay
Sunday Jan 21, 2024
Sunday Jan 21, 2024
Leo enquires about Jungian Sandplay, a therapeutic modality Siana offers in her therapy practice. We explore Siana's demand avoidance about the prospect of speaking about this and then eventually get there in a perfectly autistic way.
This is a lovely illustration of "Takiwatanga" which we happened to post about on our Facebook feed this week. Takiwatanga is the Maori word for autism which translates as "in their own time and space".
Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555354942260
LINKS
What is demand avoidance? – PDA Society
The PDA Summit 2023 (thepdaspace.com)
Autistic Demand Avoidance – an example – Riko's blog: PDA and more. (wordpress.com)
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Sunday Jan 14, 2024
S1 E10: Getting It 'Right'
Sunday Jan 14, 2024
Sunday Jan 14, 2024
In this episode we explore the centrality of the core value of justice for many autistic people.
We discuss the impacts on us when things aren't "right" or fair, the tenacity needed to address these and the toll this takes on us.
We then tentatively begin to explore some particular ways in which our social experiences correlate with theory around masking, fawning and appeasement.
LINKS
Trauma 101 with Linda Thai - Learning about trauma can be empowering and transformative.
Appeasement: replacing Stockholm syndrome as a definition of a survival strategy
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Sunday Jan 07, 2024
S1 E9: 2024, we’re here for it...
Sunday Jan 07, 2024
Sunday Jan 07, 2024
In today's episode we're gearing up for the new year in our therapy practices.
We reflect on therapeutic relationships and processes, wondering about and exploring those facets which might just be unique to autistic or AuDHD lives.
And we talk about our hopes and dreams for the podcast in 2024 inviting you to connect with us as we build the Autistic Licence community together.
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Saturday Dec 30, 2023
S1 E8: A Neurospicy Experience
Saturday Dec 30, 2023
Saturday Dec 30, 2023
You are very welcome to join us here for Christmas Part 2.
Recorded on Boxing Day 2023, we reflect on our "festive" experiences this year. We then springboard off a seemingly inconsequential moment we shared recently, into a deeply satisfying autistic dive.
We'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences, neurospicy and otherwise.
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Sunday Dec 24, 2023
S1 E7: ’Tis the season...
Sunday Dec 24, 2023
Sunday Dec 24, 2023
Join us as we explore and reflect on our experiences of Christmases past and the lead up to this year's "festivities".
We sensitively unpack some specific challenges the season poses for us and our neurokin. We share some of our learning from over the years and recognise this is still a work in progress.
In true autistic style this episode jumps around a fair bit and diverts left, right and centre ... yet wondrously (autistically ❤️) arcs right back to where it needs to be at the end.
At the time of release we tentatively intend to record again during the coming week as we are intrigued to track the process. But, y'know, demand avoidance and all that means we need some grace on the timing of all that.
Thank you so, so, so, so much for all your encouragement and support over the past couple of months! This project truly delights our hearts ❤️
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Saturday Dec 09, 2023
S1 E6: It’s all in the detail
Saturday Dec 09, 2023
Saturday Dec 09, 2023
Here we talk about loss and retrieval - of a car, a voice and even of the land!
We reflect on the line between being perceived as "annoying" verses being curious, further expanding the pitfalls and the benefits of being #actuallyautistic in social and therapeutic contexts.
Join us for a mix of complexity and so-called "info dumping" within a warm, kind and therapeutic space.
LINKS
Linda Thai
www.linda-thai.com
Trauma Geek's blog post
autietraumageek.medium.com/lost-in-translation-the-social-language-theory-of-neurodivergence-part-1-of-2-1963ba0073c5
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Sunday Dec 03, 2023
S1 E5: SPINning free
Sunday Dec 03, 2023
Sunday Dec 03, 2023
In this episode we share some autistic joy 🤗
Expect the usual winding tangents, several 'aha!' moments and a healthy smattering of play and frivolity.
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