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Join the Autistic Licence podcast, where two autistic therapists - Siana & Leo - share their experiences, insights and the colourful world of intersectionality! We’re here to boost visibility for fellow autistic therapists, fuel the global neurodiversity conversation, and create a fun, engaging space together. No matter who you are, we warmly invite you to join us on this journey of discovery, connection, and growth. Subscribe and be part of the conversation today!
Episodes

Monday Mar 11, 2024
S1 E16: Autistiphobia - Inside Out
Monday Mar 11, 2024
Monday Mar 11, 2024
In this episode we discuss how we, as autistic people, are seen and experienced by others. We then traverse some thorny territory relating to how we see ourselves and influence each other.
These are sensitive ideas and topics, interspersed with distractions, brain glitches and spiralling reasoning which somehow loops together in the end.
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Sunday Mar 03, 2024
S1 E15: Queering Relationships
Sunday Mar 03, 2024
Sunday Mar 03, 2024
In this episode we begin to circumambulate the intersectionality of autism and queerness.
We begin with Siana's home interior decorating project and finish up discussing Leo's gender identity development. In between we wax lyrical around some relationship models, notably Siana's current QPR (queer platonic relationship).
Comical interlude provided by Leo's beautifully curated ritual around a previous relationship.
Topic to be continued - we listen to your feedback and suggestions 🧡💛 Keep them coming!
Trigger warning : brief reference to suicide in relation to trauma towards the end of this episode
LINKS
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Saturday Feb 24, 2024
S1 E14: Airports and Smells
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
This episode is another “in person” recording. We reflect on our experiences of travelling with and without accommodations.
We specifically speak about the profound benefits for us of wearing a Sunflower lanyard when travelling in busy and often overwhelming airports.
We also talk about the significance of our sense of smell, in particular Leo’s awareness of this in new places.
NOISE WARNING: towards the end of our chat we talk about the possibility of adding a noise warning to this episode. This is because of some loud noise from people working outside during the recording. The warning wasn't necessary in the end as we were able to filter it out in the edit. Clever us!
LINKS
What is the Hidden Disabilities Sunflower? (hdsunflower.com)
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Saturday Feb 24, 2024
S1 E13: Autistic Presence
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
We recorded this episode while we were together in Siana’s house last weekend. We explore co-regulation and bring in various ideas and theories from autistic, therapeutic and scientific communities to flavour our discussion.
We end up specifically inviting the non autistic community to join and get to know us and, most importantly, the autistic people around them.
LINKS
Trauma and the nervous system: a polyvagal perspective (youtube.com)
Resources | Rhythm of Regulation
What is the double empathy problem? (smallstepps.com)
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Sunday Feb 04, 2024
S1 E12: Spoonies!
Sunday Feb 04, 2024
Sunday Feb 04, 2024
In this episode we explore the finite nature of personal energy and capacity. We refer to our own experiences and to wider "spoon theory".
The pace of this conversation is slow and relaxed; it's basically two autistic people hanging out together. If that's your vibe, we'd love you to join us 🧡💛
On that note, our Facebook community is growing fast and you would be very welcome there too - see the links below...
LINKS
Facebook
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Sunday Jan 21, 2024
S1 E11: An indirect exploration of Jungian Sandplay
Sunday Jan 21, 2024
Sunday Jan 21, 2024
Leo enquires about Jungian Sandplay, a therapeutic modality Siana offers in her therapy practice. We explore Siana's demand avoidance about the prospect of speaking about this and then eventually get there in a perfectly autistic way.
This is a lovely illustration of "Takiwatanga" which we happened to post about on our Facebook feed this week. Takiwatanga is the Maori word for autism which translates as "in their own time and space".
Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555354942260
LINKS
What is demand avoidance? – PDA Society
The PDA Summit 2023 (thepdaspace.com)
Autistic Demand Avoidance – an example – Riko's blog: PDA and more. (wordpress.com)
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Sunday Jan 14, 2024
S1 E10: Getting It 'Right'
Sunday Jan 14, 2024
Sunday Jan 14, 2024
In this episode we explore the centrality of the core value of justice for many autistic people.
We discuss the impacts on us when things aren't "right" or fair, the tenacity needed to address these and the toll this takes on us.
We then tentatively begin to explore some particular ways in which our social experiences correlate with theory around masking, fawning and appeasement.
LINKS
Trauma 101 with Linda Thai - Learning about trauma can be empowering and transformative.
Appeasement: replacing Stockholm syndrome as a definition of a survival strategy
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Sunday Jan 07, 2024
S1 E9: 2024, we’re here for it...
Sunday Jan 07, 2024
Sunday Jan 07, 2024
In today's episode we're gearing up for the new year in our therapy practices.
We reflect on therapeutic relationships and processes, wondering about and exploring those facets which might just be unique to autistic or AuDHD lives.
And we talk about our hopes and dreams for the podcast in 2024 inviting you to connect with us as we build the Autistic Licence community together.
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