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Join the Autistic Licence podcast, where two autistic therapists - Siana & Leo - share their experiences, insights and the colourful world of intersectionality! We’re here to boost visibility for fellow autistic therapists, fuel the global neurodiversity conversation, and create a fun, engaging space together. No matter who you are, we warmly invite you to join us on this journey of discovery, connection, and growth. Subscribe and be part of the conversation today!
Episodes

Sunday Apr 07, 2024
S1 E20: The Loneliness of Difference
Sunday Apr 07, 2024
Sunday Apr 07, 2024
Trigger warning This episode deals with the topics of loneliness and suicide. Please take care of yourself and think about the timing and where your support is if you decide to listen. |
We reflect on our experiences and relationships in the past, which led to loneliness, disconnection and feelings of life not being worth living. We also reflect on the distinctions between company, co-regulation and presence.
We recognise that these topics are heavy and in need of careful and responsible handling. At the same time, they're extremely common among the autistic community and we feel it's important to shine light on them.
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Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Monday Apr 01, 2024
S1 E19: Food, noise and the "feel" of things
Monday Apr 01, 2024
Monday Apr 01, 2024
In this episode we talk about sensitivities to physical and sensory stimuli. We focus on challenges around noise, food and physical (dis)comfort.
We speak about the significance of autonomy. We also discuss interpersonal misunderstandings related to us not doing "what's good" for us. We note the important distinction here between things being seen as preferences rather than (in)tolerances.
Seasonal references provided intermittently as we experience in real time the 26 minute time difference between sunset in London and Carrickfergus. And basically reflect on how we might control time were we in charge. Sure, how else would two Autistic people make meaning out of Easter?!
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Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Sunday Mar 24, 2024
S1 E18: Multi Tracks
Sunday Mar 24, 2024
Sunday Mar 24, 2024
This episode is a spontaneous Saturday chit chat.
There's a fair amount of "here and now" energy and interaction, interspersed with memories and reflections.
Siana talks about her experience of ADHD when it fires in multiple directions at once - something which for her does not exclude hyperfocus "flow" states.
Leo reflects on a range of experiences he is now reframing in light of autism, such as the after effects of exhilarating events and "talking to myself".
We touch on concepts such as echolalia and synaptic pruning, applying these to our own experiences and challenging some common misconceptions. We conclude that as AuDHDers, while we absolutely face challenges around over stimulation, we also have tremendous capacity for sensory joy and pleasure.
LINKS
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Saturday Mar 16, 2024
S1 E17: Autistiphobia Revisited
Saturday Mar 16, 2024
Saturday Mar 16, 2024
This episode is in many ways a reflection on elements of the last one.
We speak about early narratives and experiences, and the lifelong meaning and impact of these. We apply this to therapeutic contexts and approaches, specifically Transactional Analysis and Internal Family Systems, and we relate this to therapy with autistic people.
We also explore the concept of so called "rigid" thinking and the possible significance of this for us as autistic people growing up in a world where the template for living which is offered to us does not fit or deliver.
Special guest contribution from Phoebe - Siana's cat - in this episode 😻
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Relational Transactional Analysis
“Know all the theories, master all the techniques, but as you touch a human soul be just another human soul.”
Carl Jung
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Monday Mar 11, 2024
S1 E16: Autistiphobia - Inside Out
Monday Mar 11, 2024
Monday Mar 11, 2024
In this episode we discuss how we, as autistic people, are seen and experienced by others. We then traverse some thorny territory relating to how we see ourselves and influence each other.
These are sensitive ideas and topics, interspersed with distractions, brain glitches and spiralling reasoning which somehow loops together in the end.
LINKS
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Sunday Mar 03, 2024
S1 E15: Queering Relationships
Sunday Mar 03, 2024
Sunday Mar 03, 2024
In this episode we begin to circumambulate the intersectionality of autism and queerness.
We begin with Siana's home interior decorating project and finish up discussing Leo's gender identity development. In between we wax lyrical around some relationship models, notably Siana's current QPR (queer platonic relationship).
Comical interlude provided by Leo's beautifully curated ritual around a previous relationship.
Topic to be continued - we listen to your feedback and suggestions 🧡💛 Keep them coming!
Trigger warning : brief reference to suicide in relation to trauma towards the end of this episode
LINKS
Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Saturday Feb 24, 2024
S1 E14: Airports and Smells
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
This episode is another “in person” recording. We reflect on our experiences of travelling with and without accommodations.
We specifically speak about the profound benefits for us of wearing a Sunflower lanyard when travelling in busy and often overwhelming airports.
We also talk about the significance of our sense of smell, in particular Leo’s awareness of this in new places.
NOISE WARNING: towards the end of our chat we talk about the possibility of adding a noise warning to this episode. This is because of some loud noise from people working outside during the recording. The warning wasn't necessary in the end as we were able to filter it out in the edit. Clever us!
LINKS
What is the Hidden Disabilities Sunflower? (hdsunflower.com)
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Saturday Feb 24, 2024
S1 E13: Autistic Presence
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
We recorded this episode while we were together in Siana’s house last weekend. We explore co-regulation and bring in various ideas and theories from autistic, therapeutic and scientific communities to flavour our discussion.
We end up specifically inviting the non autistic community to join and get to know us and, most importantly, the autistic people around them.
LINKS
Trauma and the nervous system: a polyvagal perspective (youtube.com)
Resources | Rhythm of Regulation
What is the double empathy problem? (smallstepps.com)
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