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Join the Autistic Licence podcast, where two autistic therapists - Siana & Leo - share their experiences, insights and the colourful world of intersectionality! We’re here to boost visibility for fellow autistic therapists, fuel the global neurodiversity conversation, and create a fun, engaging space together. No matter who you are, we warmly invite you to join us on this journey of discovery, connection, and growth. Subscribe and be part of the conversation today!
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6 days ago
S2 E19: Woody
6 days ago
6 days ago
Trigger warning for mention of death, loss and grief. If you have particular sensitivities around these subjects, please consider carefully whether and / or when you might listen to this episode. |
Leo's dog, Woody, died just before Christmas.
This episode was recorded in December and the "previous" episode we mention at the beginning was "Furry Friends & Existentialism".
We speak about our experiences of bereavement and grief. We talk about navigating the end of life and expand this to speak about other endings, planned and otherwise.
Leo shares some treasured memories of his unique connection with Woody. We wonder about specific aspects of grief from (our) Autistic perspectives, bringing in differences in attunement, attachment and communication.
Your comments and feedback are always most welcome.
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Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
S2 E18: Neuroqueering Self Care & Identity Markers
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
This is a short chat we had following our guest conversation with Elisabeth.
In it we further develop our thoughts and reflections about self compassion. We also contemplate our identities within the queer community, recognising that we have much more personal "work" to do in this area.
Obviously it's vulnerable to put something like this out into the world ... however we do so for two reasons. Firstly, we want to honour how inspirational we found our conversation with Elisabeth and secondly, we wonder whether other people might be thinking in similar ways and feel less alone by hearing us.
Your comments and feedback are always most welcome. 💛🧡
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Sunday Mar 09, 2025
S2 E17: Elisabeth - A Lived Experience Of Difference
Sunday Mar 09, 2025
Sunday Mar 09, 2025
We have a treat for you today - our guest conversation with Elisabeth. 💛🧡
Elisabeth shares her story generously and insightfully. We speak about late diagnosis and the idea of a second adolescence. We contrast medicalised perspectives with the neurodiversity paradigm, for example in navigating group contexts.
We explore the intersectionality of queer and neurodivergent communities. We also discuss "coming out" and parallels between the neurodiversity movement and the LGBTQIA+ movement in the 80s and 90s. We speak of difference, stigma and making sense of our lived experiences in an ever changing landscape.
We end with discussing the significance of justice for us, on a micro and a macro scale.
We loved engaging with Elisabeth and were so intrigued that we continued the conversation after our call ended (to be released soon!)
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Saturday Feb 22, 2025
S2 E16: Catherine - Autistic Identity
Saturday Feb 22, 2025
Saturday Feb 22, 2025
In this episode we meet Catherine, one of our listeners from the USA. Catherine shares with us about her deep dive into autistic identity.
We discuss some of our experiences throughout our life spans relating to others in education and group settings. We notice ways in which we adapted that don't feel so necessary any longer.
Catherine also comes up with the phrase "social dyspraxia" which we agree is a wonderful descriptor and summary of much of our exploration.
The conversation ends with some beautiful autistic "show and tell" between Leo and Catherine.
We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback. 💛🧡
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Saturday Feb 15, 2025
S2 E15: Daniel - Me, Myself and AI
Saturday Feb 15, 2025
Saturday Feb 15, 2025
In this episode we speak with Daniel, one of our listeners who responded to our invitation to join us for a guest conversation.
We speak about Daniel's ongoing process of coming to know himself as autistic. We then branch into discussing therapy with AuDHD people, including an exploration of the role artificial intelligence (AI) might play in this.
Daniel introduces us to his concept of "Grand Cycles" and does a fantastic job of describing aphantasia from the inside out.
We absolutely loved meeting Daniel.
Daniel is happy to be contacted at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielzp/
We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback. 💛🧡
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Monday Jan 06, 2025
S2 E14: Mid Life Musings
Monday Jan 06, 2025
Monday Jan 06, 2025
In this episode we reflect on the new calendar year and whether this has significance for us.
We then open up a long discussion about the process of "middle age". Leo shares some of his identity shifts and pillars which have become clearer and more robust over the past decade.
Siana reflects on the significance of readiness and of having a template of sorts which has enabled her to enter and navigate this stage of life in a different way.
We speak about themes of hope, expectation, change and growth, and weave in some therapeutic insights along the way.
We hope you enjoy this episode and, as always, your comments and reflections are welcome at autisticlicence@gmail.com 🧡💛
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Tuesday Dec 24, 2024
S2 E13: Festive Friends & Seasonal Traditions
Tuesday Dec 24, 2024
Tuesday Dec 24, 2024
Cadbury has discontinued Festive Friends biscuits 😭 We speak about the effects of product changes for autistic people and return to the topic of sensitivities and allergies.
Leo reflects on the complex interplay he's noticing between ADHD meds, eating / appetite, medical history / considerations and sensory sensitivities.
We move on to talking about aspects of this time of year which we enjoy. We recognise the diversity of our listeners' cultural contexts and we are also mindful of how challenging Christmas can be for many. We wish you all moments of peace and connection in ways that are meaningful for you.
Thank you so much for all your support in 2024 and we'll speak to you on the other side 💛🧡
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Saturday Dec 21, 2024
S2 E12: Furry Friends & Existentialism
Saturday Dec 21, 2024
Saturday Dec 21, 2024
TRIGGER WARNING This episode contains discussions about death, which may be triggering for some listeners. Please listen with care and prioritise your well-being. |
Leo's dogs join us for this episode and we begin by chatting about our pets. Siana then talks a bit about seasonal sensitivities. We move into speaking about aspects of the transition into sleep at night.
From here things get a bit deep as we go onto speaking about Leo's childhood anxieties about death and psychological safety.
It's a quick ending this time due to busy schedules but perhaps we will circle around to this again in future. As always, your comments and reflections are welcome at autisticlicence@gmail.com 🧡💛
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