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Join the Autistic Licence podcast, where two autistic therapists - Siana & Leo - share their experiences, insights and the colourful world of intersectionality! We’re here to boost visibility for fellow autistic therapists, fuel the global neurodiversity conversation, and create a fun, engaging space together. No matter who you are, we warmly invite you to join us on this journey of discovery, connection, and growth. Subscribe and be part of the conversation today!
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Saturday Apr 05, 2025
S2 E21: A Time Of Transition
Saturday Apr 05, 2025
Saturday Apr 05, 2025
There's a bit of silliness at the beginning of this episode. We debated cutting it out, maybe due to the vestiges of internalised ableism but we decided to keep it in the interests of authenticity.
It's fully possible to be "silly" and childlike right alongside having the capacity for psychological depth and vulnerable conversations.
We move from "here and now" chat into speaking about tears and other emotional expressions such as anger, fear, joy and sadness. We also reflect on the possibility of heightened emotional affect related to times of seasonal transition.
We invite further conversation and connection about the possibility of forming groups for autistic people. If you would like to discuss this or if you have any other comments or feedback to share we'd love to hear from you - autisticlicence@gmail.com 💛🧡
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Friday Mar 28, 2025
S2 E20: How Disappointing...
Friday Mar 28, 2025
Friday Mar 28, 2025
Trigger warning: This episode includes references to neglect and developmental trauma which some listeners may find upsetting. |
It's been a while since we recorded together!
In this episode we expand on our discussion about grief. Leo reflects on the loss of Woody, three months on. We then move into exploring other feelings such as disappointment and pride. We speak about the conditional meanings of these feelings in relation to other people.
We contrast this with the idea of unconditional love and acceptance and wonder about how this might feel and the significance of it, particularly in light of being autistic.
Molly has been at the vet's and joins us for the last 10 minutes. 🐕
We welcome your comments and feedback as always; get in touch at autisticlicence@gmail.com 💛🧡
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Friday Mar 21, 2025
S2 E19: Woody
Friday Mar 21, 2025
Friday Mar 21, 2025
Trigger warning for mention of death, loss and grief. If you have particular sensitivities around these subjects, please consider carefully whether and / or when you might listen to this episode. |
Leo's dog, Woody, died just before Christmas.
This episode was recorded in December and the "previous" episode we mention at the beginning was "Furry Friends & Existentialism".
We speak about our experiences of bereavement and grief. We talk about navigating the end of life and expand this to speak about other endings, planned and otherwise.
Leo shares some treasured memories of his unique connection with Woody. We wonder about specific aspects of grief from (our) Autistic perspectives, bringing in differences in attunement, attachment and communication.
Your comments and feedback are always most welcome.
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Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
S2 E18: Neuroqueering Self Care & Identity Markers
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
This is a short chat we had following our guest conversation with Elisabeth.
In it we further develop our thoughts and reflections about self compassion. We also contemplate our identities within the queer community, recognising that we have much more personal "work" to do in this area.
Obviously it's vulnerable to put something like this out into the world ... however we do so for two reasons. Firstly, we want to honour how inspirational we found our conversation with Elisabeth and secondly, we wonder whether other people might be thinking in similar ways and feel less alone by hearing us.
Your comments and feedback are always most welcome. 💛🧡
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Sunday Mar 09, 2025
S2 E17: Elisabeth - A Lived Experience Of Difference
Sunday Mar 09, 2025
Sunday Mar 09, 2025
We have a treat for you today - our guest conversation with Elisabeth. 💛🧡
Elisabeth shares her story generously and insightfully. We speak about late diagnosis and the idea of a second adolescence. We contrast medicalised perspectives with the neurodiversity paradigm, for example in navigating group contexts.
We explore the intersectionality of queer and neurodivergent communities. We also discuss "coming out" and parallels between the neurodiversity movement and the LGBTQIA+ movement in the 80s and 90s. We speak of difference, stigma and making sense of our lived experiences in an ever changing landscape.
We end with discussing the significance of justice for us, on a micro and a macro scale.
We loved engaging with Elisabeth and were so intrigued that we continued the conversation after our call ended (to be released soon!)
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Saturday Feb 22, 2025
S2 E16: Catherine - Autistic Identity
Saturday Feb 22, 2025
Saturday Feb 22, 2025
In this episode we meet Catherine, one of our listeners from the USA. Catherine shares with us about her deep dive into autistic identity.
We discuss some of our experiences throughout our life spans relating to others in education and group settings. We notice ways in which we adapted that don't feel so necessary any longer.
Catherine also comes up with the phrase "social dyspraxia" which we agree is a wonderful descriptor and summary of much of our exploration.
The conversation ends with some beautiful autistic "show and tell" between Leo and Catherine.
We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback. 💛🧡
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Saturday Feb 15, 2025
S2 E15: Daniel - Me, Myself and AI
Saturday Feb 15, 2025
Saturday Feb 15, 2025
In this episode we speak with Daniel, one of our listeners who responded to our invitation to join us for a guest conversation.
We speak about Daniel's ongoing process of coming to know himself as autistic. We then branch into discussing therapy with AuDHD people, including an exploration of the role artificial intelligence (AI) might play in this.
Daniel introduces us to his concept of "Grand Cycles" and does a fantastic job of describing aphantasia from the inside out.
We absolutely loved meeting Daniel.
Daniel is happy to be contacted at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielzp/
We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback. 💛🧡
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Monday Jan 06, 2025
S2 E14: Mid Life Musings
Monday Jan 06, 2025
Monday Jan 06, 2025
In this episode we reflect on the new calendar year and whether this has significance for us.
We then open up a long discussion about the process of "middle age". Leo shares some of his identity shifts and pillars which have become clearer and more robust over the past decade.
Siana reflects on the significance of readiness and of having a template of sorts which has enabled her to enter and navigate this stage of life in a different way.
We speak about themes of hope, expectation, change and growth, and weave in some therapeutic insights along the way.
We hope you enjoy this episode and, as always, your comments and reflections are welcome at autisticlicence@gmail.com 🧡💛
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